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Supply&Demand
Interviewed by Sandi Cain
July 2009

For a midyear look at where the meetings industry may be headed, we talked to Mike Dominguez, vice president of global sales for Loews Hotels, and Bradley Ford, director of marketing and customer programs for Pathway Medical Technologies. Here’s what they had to say about the outlook for 2010 and what’s likely to be different about meetings in the future.
Mike Dominguez

As vice president, global sales, Mike Dominguez
oversees the national sales effort for Loews Hotels, a New York–based company that operates 18 high-end hotels in cities throughout the United States and Canada. The 25-year hospitality industry veteran, with eight years experience in food and beverage operations, joined Loews after serving as vice president, sales and marketing for the Palm Springs Desert Resorts CVA. Dominguez actively supports the meetings industry as president of MPI’s Southern California chapter and through involvement with PCMA, ASAE, SGMP, RCMA, and SITE.

Bradley Ford

Bradley Ford now focuses his efforts on marketing and business development in the medical device industry after playing a leading role in the meetings industry for most of his career. As director of marketing and customer programs at Pathway Medical Technologies, he supports a sales force of 65 consultants via sales training, physician education, and market development programs. Previously, he worked at FoxHollow Technologies, Maritz Travel, Woodberry Events, and Meetings Plus.

Supply

Q. From what you’ve observed, is confidence returning?

A. Industry data showed a short-term uptick in April for the first time in nine months. We’ve seen the first hints of optimism, but I say that cautiously. Our bright spots were small short-term meetings of 35 rooms or less coming back in April and May. They were the ones to disappear first. Usually those are the ones to return first. A large group from the financial sector that canceled last year also rebooked.

Q. Early this year there were numerous cancellations and post-ponements as the public perception of meetings turned negative. How has this perception affected your hotels more recently?

A. The hoopla has stopped, and cancellations have slowed or stopped. But groups are still downsizing, especially in the corporate arena. One customer held 15 meetings instead of 20 by combining some meetings and content. It’s encouraging to me that there’s no one out there saying that meetings aren’t necessary. The negativity was so media driven. One of the points we as an industry don’t do a good job of explaining to media is the bigger picture of the meeting’s tax dollars that keep people employed. That’s the human aspect that the media misses. Loews likes to show planners how their meeting also helps the city by coming up with formulas to estimate how many people are employed as a result. 

Q. What’s different in what companies are looking for when they plan a meeting for 2010 and beyond?

A. What’s surprising is that they’re looking for competitive rates, but aren’t asking for anything unreasonable. Something I haven’t seen before is a spirit of partnership. Companies are looking for a deal, value for the dollar, and a complete package. We’re having to be creative and learn what that means for the meetings package.

Q. How are negotiations different than they were a year ago?

A. Not much. What we’ve noticed is they’re a lot faster now. There aren’t a lot of opportunities to revise a bid. You need to come out with your best offer immediately. What’s driving that is the short-term booking window of about 45 days, because planners have to wait for permission to do the meeting.

Q. Are you getting more inquiries from regional companies seeking to hold meetings closer to home?

A. What we are finding is more demand for city properties, whether out of a desire to stay more local or to be more affordable. But there’s a lot of value at resorts right now. What’s surprising this year is that the per-room spending on food and beverage has remained constant or gotten higher than last year. If fewer people are attending, there may be more leeway with food and beverage.

Q. Do you expect to see more social or incentive events come back into play in 2010?

A. I think so. The challenge with incentives is that there’s a decline in sales across all industries, so the incentive sector will be down. Traditionally, incentives are part of people’s compensation; in order to retain talent, they’re necessary. People are more excited to go on the trip than to get a bonus—that’s something that’s missed in the media discussion.

Q. Are you seeing a demand for corporate social responsibility, green meetings, or charitable programs?

A. Nine months ago, green meetings were at the forefront. Now they’re part of the discussion, but not the driver. Companies aren’t asking for details, but for a big-picture view of the hotel’s green strategy. Charitable programs aren’t about donations now, but about how people can contribute time volunteering while they’re at the meeting.

Q. How do your 2010 group booking numbers compare to this year?

A.They’re still down, but 2010 across the board doesn’t have as great a decline as 2009. That’s why we’re hoping things are opening up a bit. It will be important to look at the end of the third quarter as an indicator of the pace for future years.

Q. Do you plan to implement any new meeting-related technology in the next year?

A. There are a lot of gadgets out there, but everyone is in a holding pattern because we need to see what’s going to be the customer expectation once this decline is over. That will dictate the technology. But everyone is embracing social media. That’s not a fad; it’s here to stay.

Demand

Q. From what you’ve observed, is confidence returning?

A. It is returning—slowly, but definitely—in the medical device sector, although there’s also some hesitancy. In tough economic times, we have to make sure we can improve the value of programs. We need to make sure all marketing programs in the budget are linked to revenue generation.

Q. Early this year there were numerous cancellations and postponements as the public perception of meetings turned negative. How has this perception affected your company more recently?

A. It’s having an effect. The fourth quarter of 2008 was probably one of the most challenging times for business. As companies put together budgets for 2009, they had to look closely at where they were spending money. We’ve seen a significant decrease in attendance at all major conferences we’ve attended. It’s changing the way we look at conferences for the rest of the year. We used to spend a lot at major medical conferences; now we’re putting that money into peer-to-peer events, staging educational events that are solely focused on our products or services. That has produced significant ROI.

Q. What’s different in what your company is looking for when it plans a meeting for 2010 and beyond?

A. We took a close look at the impact canceled meetings in our industry had on our business. When we scaled back and then looked at the numbers, we could see a significant change in the number of sales generated. The spending correlated directly with the amount of money spent in the field. We cut back because of the economy and the need to cut expenses, but we had to look at the sales losses that brought. We truly believe that when economic times are tough you have to rely on relationships to carry you through. That’s the most important reason we do educational meetings.

Q. How are negotiations different than they were a year ago?

A. It’s definitely a buyer’s market. The marketing team is finding it a lot easier to negotiate the prices and concessions we expect versus what we experienced in years past. Hotels and venues realize times are tough for everyone, and they’re starting to build relationships on the corporate side. They know we’ll have more money to spend when the economy turns around. That’s a key thing going into any negotiation. Now the vendors are working hard on the relationships right through billing at the end of the events.

Q. Are you seeking more regional meeting destinations to save time and travel dollars?

A. We’re taking a close look at keeping meetings at locations that are accessible, convenient, and nice, but not over-the-top. Perception is everything with our customer base. If there’s a perception that we have a lot of money, customers think our prices should be lower.

Q. Do you expect to see more social or incentive events come back into play in 2010?

A. I think they’ll come back, but slowly and in a different form. For instance, we combined two national sales meetings with incentives. They’ll have the awards banquets and other incentive portions, but we’re consolidating to maximize the money already being spent on the national meeting.

Q. Do you have a demand for corporate social responsibility, green meetings, or charitable programs?

A. Relationship-building programs are invaluable. There’s a need for those. But how they can be done effectively is the question. Green meetings give people the perception that they’re trying to do something. They make us feel good, but are they having an impact? When you walk into the meeting, nothing is different in the way it’s being conducted.

Q. How does the number of meetings you’ll stage in 2010 compare to this year?

A. We’re investing more money for the third and fourth quarter this year and for next year. We’re also looking at a five-year plan to increase meetings. Fifty percent of our marketing budget is going to peer-to-peer education meetings. We realize we have to bring people together, educate them, and make them advocates of our products, not just users. Peer-to-peer events make companies successful.

Q. Do you plan to implement any new meeting-related technology in the next year?

A. I’ve been investigating online meeting companies, solutions, and tools. But I haven’t found any that will achieve our standards for peer-to-peer meetings. We’ll educate new users through Webcasts and virtual meetings. But you can’t build a relationship with a holographic speaker. It has to be community-building and something that will make people say, “Wow—this company invests in me.” 

 

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